Monday, September 15, 2014

Review Navien NR-210 Condensing Tankless Water Heater, Natural Gas

Navien NR-210 Condensing Tankless Water Heater, Natural Gas

Navien NR-210 Condensing Tankless Water Heater, Natural Gas

Navien Condensing Tankless Water Heater Natural GasSKU: NR210With Navien Condensing 98 percent, you get the best of both worlds: the Best Value and "Ultra Condensing Efficiency", which offers substantial savings and contributes to a green-friendly environment. Plus, the installation and venting processes are easy, cost effective, and Navien's products are simply the best in quality and performance. 98 percent thermal efficiency. 0.97 energy factor 17000 - 180000 BTU/hr Flow rates - At 35 Degree Fahrenheit Rise : 10 GPM, At 45 Degree Fahrenheit Rise : 7.7 GPM, At 77 Degree Fahrenheit Rise : 4.6 GPM Easy installation and PVC venting Includes NR-10DU remote controlNote: We will not be held liable for any damages, injury or death caused by proper or improper installation of hot water heaters. All water heaters of any type MUST be installed by a trained and licensed technician. See Terms and Conditions. The warranty may become void if the water heater was not specified by a professional ins...

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Navien NR-210 Condensing Tankless Water Heater, Natural Gas Features

  • 98 percent thermal efficiency. 0.97 energy factor
  • 17000 - 180000 BTU/hr
  • Flow rates - At 35 Degree Fahrenheit Rise: 10 GPM, At 45 Degree Fahrenheit Rise: 7.7 GPM, At 77 Degree Fahrenheit Rise: 4.6 GPM
  • Easy installation and PVC venting
  • Includes NR-10DU remote control

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Customers say's :
Get a Rinnai, they're more reliable with better customer service
I purchased a Navien NR-210 through a local plumber about 16 months ago and until now it has been great. About 4-6 weeks ago the water heater started to shut off with an error code 35. It was sporadic with no apparent rhyme or reason. And now when I run the water to give my kids a bath it constantly switches on and off so the water will heat up and then turn ice cold. It is impossible to get a decent water temperature for a bath. This doesn't happen with lower flow appliances like the shower, faucets, dishwasher, or washing machine. I sent Navien customer service an email and it has been well over a week and they haven't responded. Checking on their website the plumber who installed it doesn't do service so I am now going to have to pay someone to drive almost two hours to service the water heater. For something that is less than 18 months old these problems shouldn't occur. And if these problems do occur the least Navien could do is reply to customer questions.

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Cheap to run, heat exchanger leaked at 40 months.
I got one of these back in 2010. I've been really happy with the performance. It used 1/3rd the gas use of my 9 year old builder special tank heater. I did not measure how much electricity it used, but it wasn't noticeable on the power bill in the monthly noise. We never ran out of hot water, and could run the dishwasher and two showers at the same time even in a PA winter.

However, the heat exchanger started leaking after 40 months. Similar story to the other reviewer where Navien looked for any reason to blame something outside their unit, but after some back and forth with my plumber they did step up and do the right thing. They replaced the entire unit with a new NPE-210A.

The cost to install the new heater and the service call ate up about half the savings from the last few years so the efficiency didn't buy me as much as I had hoped. There's something to be said for old reliable tech.


No problems in two years
I have had my Navien NR-210 water heater for two years. The unit has worked perfectly with no problems. It was installed by a professional plumber who seemed to be familiar with tankless heaters.
I my only regret is not getting the NR-210-a instead of the plain 210, because the "A" models have a small internal tank to buffer the hot water, which can be a problem with low-flow shower heads. Other than that, I have no complaints.
As far as savings are concerned, while you will save a little on gas, it would take years to save back the higher initial cost. For example, my over-the-summer gas consumption went from 10-12 "therms" per month to about 2. I pay about $.85 per therm, which comes out to just under $100 per year.

Review Rheem RTG-95XLP 9.5 GPM Outdoor Series Tankless Propane Water Heater

Rheem RTG-95XLP 9.5 GPM Outdoor Series Tankless Propane Water Heater

Rheem RTG-95XLP 9.5 GPM Outdoor Series Tankless Propane Water Heater

Next Generation Burner Technology EZ-Link Cable Available For High Demand Applications to Connect Two Tankless Units to Operate as One Manifold Up to 6 Units with an Optional MIC-6 Manifold Control Board Exclusive! Guardian OFW Overheat Film Wrap All Rheem Tankless Models Are Third-Party Efficiency Certified by GAMA Continuous Hot Water, Energy Saving and Compact, Space Saving Design Intelligent Electronic Controls Designed to Increase Energy Efficiency and Safety Self Diagnostic System Digital Display Shows Temperature Setting and Maintenance Codes Built-In Electric Blower Environmentally Friendly Low NOx Burner Meets SCAQMD Rule 1146 Requirements 95 Series Tankless Heater Direct Vent 3" /5" Concentric Vent System with Integrated Condensate Collector Connects to Metal Fab Inc., 3" /5" Concentric Venting Without an Adapter Next Generation Burner Technology Industry Best! .26 Gpm Minimum Flow Rate, .40 Gpm Minimum Activation Flow Rate UMC-117 Remote Control and 10 Ft. Of Thermostat Wire...

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Rheem RTG-95XLP 9.5 GPM Outdoor Series Tankless Propane Water Heater Features

  • .26 GPM Minimum Flow Rate, .40 GPM Minimum Activation Flow Rate, 199,000 BTU
  • UMC-117 remote control and 10 ft. of thermostat wire is included
  • Vent termination kit required
  • Eligible for federal tax credits for energy efficiency
  • Meets Low Nitrigen Oxide emmission standards

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Customers say's :
great product
installed fast and easy for the mechanically inclined. Installed this in my new house under construction. so fare were very pleased





Sunday, September 14, 2014

Review Chronomite SR-30 277v Instant-Flow SR Tankless Water Heater

Chronomite SR-30 277v Instant-Flow SR Tankless Water Heater

Chronomite SR-30 277v Instant-Flow SR Tankless Water Heater

FEATURES:: 99% Energy Efficient Compact Size Easy to Install Low Installation Cost Unlimited Hot Water Meets ADA Requirements Made in the USA Optional Stainless Steel Housing The Instant-Flow SR model is a great basicåÊinstant water heateråÊfor a wide variety of uses. It features a small size, low installation cost, and delivers unlimited hot water. It also meets the ADA requirements and is 99% Energy Efficient. This instant water heater fits great in lavatories, sinks, showers, and other special applications. DOWNLOADS:: NEW!åÊDownload the Instant-Flow SR BIM File Instant-Flow SR (Low Flow) Submittal Page Instant-Flow SR (Standard Flow) Submittal Page Installation Instructions - Low Flow Models Installation Instructions - Standard Flow Models Competitor Comparison Chart Instant-Flow SR Models åÊ Low Flow 0.5 GPM Flow Rates Standard Flow 1.0 GPM Flow Rates Model Change T Temp Rise at 0.5 GPM Watts Amps Model Change T Temp Rise at 1.0 GPM Watts Amps SR15L/120 24 å¡ F 1800 15 S...

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Chronomite SR-30 277v Instant-Flow SR Tankless Water Heater

Customers say's :
Product and sales
Sales support for this water heater was great. It was delivered sooner than anticipated. The product is a good product but does not seem to be as durable as it should be for the price, and is NOT repairable. If it breaks you have to discard and purchase a new one.


good tankless kitchen water heater
works great for 277V application. Strong enough to handle normal kitchen needs. Easy to wire. Comes with all the fittings.



Review SR-30 - Chronomite SR-30 208v Instant-Flow SR Tankless Water Heater

SR-30 - Chronomite SR-30 208v Instant-Flow SR Tankless Water Heater

SR-30 - Chronomite SR-30 208v Instant-Flow SR Tankless Water Heater

Chronomite SR-30 208v Instant-Flow SR Tankless Water Heater Chronomite Tankless Electric Water Heaters Since 1966, Chronomite Laboratories Inc. has been the innovative leader in providing solutions for commercial and industrial tankless plumbing applications. Applications: Public Lavatory, Non-Public Lavatory, Dishwasher, Kitchen / Bar Sink, Service Sink, Scrub Sink, Shower, Special Applications, Photo Processing Facilities, Manufacturing Facilities, Schools, Colleges & Universities, Hospitals, Restaurants. Accessory package: OMNI flow control, 3 adaptors and 1 compression fitting. Chronomite SR-30 208v Instant-Flow SR Tankless Water Heater Features: Unlimited Hot Water 98% Energy Efficient Compact Size Easy to Install Low Installation Cost Meets ADA Requirements Made in the USA Product Listings UL, HUD, IAMPO Virtually Eliminates Alkali Calcification No pressure & temperature relief valve needed (unless required by local code) Standard Flow Model Chronomite SR-30 208v Instant-Flow SR ...

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Customers say's :
odds are in your favor
part of my work as a repairman is at commercial building's rented as store fronts (mostly auto repair shops , second hand stores, etc..). at one particular location there are two buildings with 8 units at each; 16 units total. every unit has a tankless water heater (TWH) under the bathroom sink. i believe the buildings began renting spaces about 5 years ago when construction was completed. to date i have replaced 4 TWH's. so, out of 16 TWH's only 4 failed over a +/- 5 year span. Hmm.. that sounds like a durable water heater to me. and when you consider that they are being used in a commercial type setting (ie: high usage) this should only increase its rating. i've read reviews from people stating they had to return their units several times also about how quickly these units have failed. i'm sure there's some truth to their reviews. i'm not a statitician, but with only 4 failures over a 60 month period; that deserves high praise.





Friday, September 12, 2014

Review Rinnai RC98eN Natural Gas Condensing Tankless Water Heater, 9.8 Gallons Per Minute

Rinnai RC98eN Natural Gas Condensing Tankless Water Heater, 9.8 Gallons Per Minute

Rinnai RC98eN Natural Gas Condensing Tankless Water Heater, 9.8 Gallons Per Minute

Ultra Collection Natural Gas, High Efficiency Condensing External Whole House Tankless Water Heater 9.8 Gallons Per Minute Suitable for mid to large sized homes, Rinnai’s new Ultra Series Condensing Tankless Water Heaters offer all the same benefits builders and homeowners have come to expect from Rinnai. Never run out of hot water again, and enjoy the space savings, convenience, ease of installation and peace of mind for which Rinnai is famous. The Efficiency of Condensing Technology Rinnai’s unique condensing design incorporates two innovative heat exchangers to achieve optimum heating value from every cubic foot of natural gas or propane. The stainless steel system recaptures residual heat from flue gases to pre-heat incoming ground water, which then circulates to the primary copper heat exchanger. Delivering an Energy Factor (EF) up to .93, Rinnai’s tankless condensing units are ideal for residential and commercial applications and can be banked for even greater capacity. Qua...

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Rinnai RC98eN Natural Gas Condensing Tankless Water Heater, 9.8 Gallons Per Minute Features

  • 9,500 ? 199,000 BTU
  • Condensing Technology for Greater Efficiency and Significant Energy Savings
  • 95% Thermal Efficiency
  • Residential Temperature Settings: 98°F - 140°F
  • Commercial Temperature Settings: 98°F - 185°F (commercial controller must be purchased separately)

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Customers say's :
Bought this product
I bought and installed this unit. It works great and has all the items needed to hook up, minus the wire for 120 volt and the controller wire (bell wire or speaker wire).
The cons is the packaging as described in other review. The box looked like it had been through a war zone. The unit cabinet was dented a little but I decided it was not worth the effort to reject it from Fed EX If you buy one make sure you are home when it is delivered and open the box, request for signature upon delivery as I requested.
The controller and the service valves and the relief valve comes with the unit. It does not say this in the description.
Fast delivery even at Christmas rush. I gave it a four because of the handling of the supplier for packaging a heavy unit with only the display box.


Terrible packaging, and much slower initial response than old gas 40 gallon water heater
The unit came from Amazon almost completely out of the box, plastic parts broken, box was half open. Almost sent it back right then, but I had the installer lined up for the next day, permits pulled, inspections pre-scheduled, gas company etc. etc.

The unit is initially very slow to respond and provides adequate hot water after 5 minutes or so.

Shipping problem was very bad.

Unit is adequate, not as good as I expected.

we will see how much money it saves on gas versus wasted water?


Rinnai water heat is excellent
Very pleased with this purchase. It has been running for about a week now and replaced an old, rusted out 50 gallon standard water heater that had failed on me at the worst of times.

First, however, I have to say that the Rinnai packaging was terrible. This is the only reason I'm not giving it 5 stars. The box was shredded and the styrofoam inside was broken into little pieces. Miraculously the heater was in great shape except for a few tiny dents on the case. Since my old water heater was already dead I decided to just go ahead and keep it as-is.

Installation was a snap, and only required routing the utility lines outside for hot and cold water and electricity.

Getting up and running took no configuration adjustments to the water heater at all. It fires the moment water begins to run and stops as soon as water is turned off. There is maybe a one second delay as the burner heats the water up, and this is completely unnoticeable if you're used to...

Review Bosch AE-9.5 PowerStar 1.5 GPM Point-Of-Use Indoor Tankless Electric Water Heater

Bosch AE-9.5 PowerStar 1.5 GPM Point-Of-Use Indoor Tankless Electric Water Heater

Bosch AE-9.5 PowerStar 1.5 GPM Point-Of-Use Indoor Tankless Electric Water Heater

" BOSCH " ELECTRIC TANKLESS WATER HEATER

Powerstar, Point Of Use, On Demand Electric Water Heater, Delivers Endless Hot Water For 1 Sink At A Time, Solid Copper Heat Exchanger & Two 2 Copper Sheathed Heating Elements, Impact Resistant Plastic Housing With Indicator Light, Multi-Directional Mounting, No Temperature & Pressure Relief T&P Valve Needed, Check Local Codes, 135 Degree Fahrenheit Maximum Temperature Output, 240V, 40A Single Phase, 9.5KW, 8 Gauge Wire, 99% Efficient, Minimum Flow To Activate, 3/4 Gallons Per Minute, Great For Remote Lavatory, Coffee Stations, Kitchen Sinks, Easy Installation By Tapping Into Existing Cold Water Line, 5 Year Limited Warranty, CSA Approved.

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Bosch AE-9.5 PowerStar 1.5 GPM Point-Of-Use Indoor Tankless Electric Water Heater Features

  • Eliminates long waits for hot water
  • Easy installation
  • Mounts on wall in any direction
  • 99-percent efficient
  • This unit will operate on 220v at 84-percent of capacity and on 208v at 75-percent of capacity

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Customers say's :
Dangerous -- No warranty service
Less than 2 months after installation, this unit will not turn off. It has burst PEX tubing three times due to the overheat condition, and started to smoke and sizzle multiple times.

It will *not* turn off even with both in and out water valves closed, and we have to flip the breakers to render it safe.

That of course means no hot water -- kind of why we bought the unit to start with.

The company is using every excuse in the book to not honor the warranty. They want me to a) hire a technician (at my expense) to troubleshoot the item on site, b) install copper tubing (also at my expense - despite being reminded water hot enough to melt PEX is too hot for skin), c) move the setting to low (meaning lukewarm water), and send them a $100 deposit which upon return of the defective unit, at their discretion, they might refund "if the unit does in fact requires warranty service".

An honorable company would send a new unit and an RMA for the...

14 Degrees Short
I tested the AE-9.5. If it worked as advertised, it would be a great little piece of equipment - but it doesn't. It is advertised to achieve an 84 degree rise at .75 gallons per minute. The best that I could do after ten tests was a 70 degree rise. Here are my test results.

Incoming water - 48 degrees
Gallons per minute - .75 GPM
Heated Water Temp - 118 degrees

I did hit 125 degrees or 77 degrees once but not for .75 gallons per minute.

For my test, I set the AE-9.5 on a table about 30 inches off the floor. I wired the unit to 240 volts. Actual voltage, 242. The heated water was directed into a two gallon pail using a two foot section of hose. The distance from the unit to the pail was minimized so as not to affect the results. I used a sealed thermometer to measure the water temp. Each test ran for two minutes.

I called the Bosch support line for help but it was after hours and they weren't able to answer my questions.


15 Minutes to success
My wife reminded me that our children and grandchildren were due to visit our cottage in one week, but not hot water. I placed my order on line and it was delivered in 3 days. Hot water at the cottage in 4 days. Wow it only took me 15 minutes to install. Then hot showers for all on the weekend. Great product.Bosch PowerStar 1.5 GPM Point-Of-Use Indoor Tankless Electric Water Heater #AE9.5

Review Noritz NRC83-DV-LP ecoTOUGH Propane Condensing Water Heater, 8.3 Gallons Per Minute

Noritz NRC83-DV-LP ecoTOUGH Propane Condensing Water Heater, 8.3 Gallons Per Minute

Noritz NRC83-DV-LP ecoTOUGH Propane Condensing Water Heater, 8.3 Gallons Per Minute

NRC83 Collection Indoor Direct Vent (Standard Vent Convertible), max. 157,000 BTU per Hour, 8.3 Gpm The Energy Star rated NRC83-DV-LP is the next generation in residential tankless hot water heater systems. This condensing liquid propane heater utilizes a dual heat exchange of stainless steel and copper, using their strengths to enable a tankless water heater to perform with an energy factor at .94, while reducing carbon dioxide output and lowering exhaust temperatures. Not only will you be saving the usual space, time and energy you expect from Noritz tankless heaters, but the venting accessories now save you even more money as the NRC83 is PVC compatible. Designed for residential applications with up to 2 showers, this easy to install ecoTough unit sacrifices nothing; providing perfect endless hot water while maintaining the status of the most efficient and greenest tankless heater in its class. Direct Vent: The NRC83 direct vent tankless water heater (condenser) enables your system ...

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  • Max flow rate: 8.3 GPM
  • Max BTU: 157000
  • 0.92 energy factor
  • 2-pipe direct vent. PVC, CPVC or Polypropylene
  • 3/4-Inch gas, hot and cold water connections

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Customers say's :
Energy efficient, quiet, and easy to install (if your handy)
When we replaced our old on demand water heater/boiler combination we decided to use two separate units instead. Since we only used the boiler for in floor heating part of the year, this reduces the wear on the expensive boiler and the Noritz is quieter and cheaper to operate the rest of the time. It has easily kept up with our needs but we are well within the 8 gallon per minutes this unit generates. Takes two holes through the exterior wall or a special part that allows the use of a single hole. It does require a place to drain the condensate. Including cutting out old piping, etc., our plumber did the whole install in under 5 hours. Very happy with it so far (3 months).


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I purchased a Noritz NRC98-DV-NG around mid April 2014 and installed it myself. I have had problems with fluctuating water temperature since it was installed. I contacted Noritz, they did troubleshooting and told me I had a cross connection. I have never had any problems with my tank heater or my plumbing, my house was built in 2002. I called a Noritz certified plumber to come out and verify, he looked it over and said he would change out the shower valve first. This plumber did not charge me. So I buy a new shower valve $150, cut a hole in the drywall replace the valve patch all that up. I still have the same problem so I call Noritz, they say I still have a cross connection. I get a different Noritz certified plumber out, he charges $185 to show up and diagnose the problem. Plumber number 2 checks everything out and charges an additional $160 to troubleshoot with Noritz on the phone because there is a problem with the unit. They decide there is a bad circut board in the...